tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3566944697067324240.post2794791505296461945..comments2023-11-15T06:24:52.827-06:00Comments on 2 by 3 Heroes: After the postJediJeffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10261262040532716901noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3566944697067324240.post-76382085875831867762016-06-04T09:12:51.622-05:002016-06-04T09:12:51.622-05:00I had a long thought out response, but instead, th...I had a long thought out response, but instead, this conversation has run it's course. I'm burying this and future opinions - don't worry.<br /><br />end of line.JediJeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10261262040532716901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3566944697067324240.post-38193673473053871812016-06-03T22:50:28.729-05:002016-06-03T22:50:28.729-05:00i missed all of this, and am not sure that i am ca...i missed all of this, and am not sure that i am caught up. still, here's my 2 cents. <br /><br />i wouldn't call what utley did a slide. more of a tumble. not an intent to injure, nor an intent to actually get to second base, but an intent to break up the double play. i cringed when i saw the play happen live, which tells me all i need to know to form my opinion of the matter. <br /><br />i have never played professional baseball, but i have been 'taken out' at second base on a dp turn, and i think i have a pretty good feel for what a legit slide looks like. heck, anyone who has watched a lot of baseball should know what a legit slide looks like. most of all, i think that utley should know that it's not what he did, but the way that he did it, that would result in being thrown at, and the mets should know that everyone else, including the umpires, also knew this so the ejections would be quick. <br /><br />now, i have never been involved in a mound charging incident, but i have asked a pitcher to throw at a batter. i've also intentionally hit a batter, and i've been in the batter's box feeling pretty sure that i was going to be thrown at. not one of those times did i think there was a chance of a mound charge because in each instance the hbp was (or at least should have been) expected. i mention this because, like the take-out slide, it's all part of the game. the closest i've come to being in a on-field fight was when a player slid in to second with his cleats up and spiked our shortstop. brawls and mound charging incidents occur when players feel that the rules (written and unwritten) of the game have been broken. sometimes they are right, and sometimes they are wrong. i don't have any data, but i assume that charging the mound incidents are less frequent than home plate collisions or take out slides at second base, and i don't see a need to outlaw any of those plays. i'm not even sure how that would work with the mound charging since they are spur of the moment decisions by the batter, who usually winds up getting ejected anyway. i suppose that the penalty for charging the mound would have to be steep to get players to not do it anymore. but then would the penalty for hbp also be steep for the pitcher? on a different note, i think that players running in from the bullpen during bench clearing incidents is ridiculous, but don't outlaw it. <br /><br />as for the rest of it, there have been a number of times over the past few years that i have typed a comment on various blogs only to cancel and delete before publishing simply because i know that my opinion won't impact what has been written or influence an opinion that i disagree with or change anyone's mind. it happened today on a blog not involved in this discussion in fact. maybe i'm avoiding conflict, but i think you can sort of tell who is open to a differing opinion and who is not.gcrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09882449679093991427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3566944697067324240.post-81820516548053205432016-06-03T20:47:05.127-05:002016-06-03T20:47:05.127-05:00I don't know how it's possible, but you...I don't know how it's possible, but you're wrong over here, too.<br /><br />1. I reacted the way I did in the comments because you did something that rarely happens on any other card blog, you went out of your way to call me out on the "error of my ways" in great detail in the comments. I suppose some people would say I should be complimented because my writing prompts such discussion and reaction, but sometimes, you just get sick of it -- good lord, can't you write a sentence like everyone else -- and this was one of those times. Also, there are a handful of commenters who seem to comment only so they can push people's buttons or undercut something someone said. Guess which one you are? Sometimes that kind of behavior can draw a reaction. You think it's charming. It's not.<br /><br />2. You still assume that this is about my allegiance to my team. It isn't. Never was, other than I paid a lot more attention because it was my team. You assume that I'm biased toward my team, which I guess is why you brought up the Greinke-Quentin thing because it doesn't have anything to do with what I was talking about on my post. But there have been many times in which fellow Dodgers fans thought we were robbed or screwed or unjustly harmed in some way and I remained quiet, because I knew they were wrong. I approach my team rooting a little more objectively than other fans. Not all the time, but my team is not always right and never wrong. I've never seen it that way, and you assume I do. You don't know me.<br /><br />3. Charging the mound is bullshit 99.99999 percent of the time. There is nothing more concerning to me on a baseball field than someone charging the mound. It's more horrifying than someone getting hit in the head because although you wonder whether the pitcher had intended to harm someone in a beaning, you never wonder what the person charging the mound is doing. He's going out to do some damage. That is never cool. It is also the quickest way to get the largest number of players or other personnel injured. And if you ever want to get fans involved or injured, a brawl is also the quickest way. Nope, mound charging should be outlawed. I still don't know why people aren't screaming about that. I guess a Mets player has to get their leg broken.<br /><br />4. You're making me talk about topics that weren't even part of the intent of my blog post. This didn't have to do with my allegiance to the Dodgers. This has to do with my love for the game, my love for the way it's played and the way I think it should be played, my love for how certain players play, how the game was taught to me, and how it was played as I grew to love it. The game is changing and tweaks are being made and it doesn't seem like the game now is what I liked then. There are a lot of people online screaming about change this and change that and I don't understand what's wrong with the game I love at all. And if you say stuff like that you get criticized or mocked. That's why I write posts like that. You're not the only person who can be subtle. I'm subtle all the time on my posts. There is stuff in there that no one will ever figure out what I'm talking about. Maybe that's why you think it was about my allegiance to the Dodgers. It concerns me when people call Utley a Piece of Shit. Phillies fans love the guy and as a Dodger fan I can see why. He's not a POS. And, yeah, that's why I responded so forcefully, too.<br /><br />5. Yup, you're right, you're an asshole. But I'll still send you White Sox cards. I want to get them out of my house more now than ever.night owlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11673973790245316059noreply@blogger.com